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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:42 am

There's one thing I feel inclined to point out after a quick look at the eX forum:

A quote from Xan:

I believe Xone's word and always will as he is a fantastic guy even if some of the decisions are a bit odd and strange. If I'm wrong to believe him then.. I'm wrong. But that wont really emphasise how I feel about him as a person.


That's nice. Can't think who I 1st heard accusing him tho, saying that she saw him shooting at walls...

Seriously now, most of the stress in the minsta community starts with Xan. As I said before, directly or indirectly.

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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:52 am

Radiohe4d wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-cVxLbS_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC40OErdg8M

Oops. Yes, sixth sense I know.
You thought about a higher FOV? There's also sounds that you may not have on that video.

& the 2nd pretty much disproves your theory imo.

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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:54 am

this thing is becoming bigger...
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:56 am

sry 4 the double post but lost is right about the second one Very Happy i would have aimed the same way

and show us the fov and the sounds i'm pretty sure a lot of them are curious in here "I AM"
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:04 am

Lost.
Xan/Feonica has nothing to do with that. It was me and two other rather well-known members of the minsta community discussing cheats/hacks in nexuiz. I unfaked later, so did everyone else. Xone knows who we are so what..
Why I checked Xone: You, Lost, should know best. As it was you spreading rumors of him using wallhack. ToT server, me11 and jager were there too. Remember?

@painless
I got more than that.. but I don't know if it makes sense to post them all, as I don't have the impression to get any support from the community for doing so o.o

Comments to video:
Vid 1: Yes, higher fov works probably. But who plays minstagib with fov > 130 ?
Vid 2: He wasn't able to hear him, nor to see him...

I'm aware of the fact that you never can prove someone is wallhacking for 100% without standing behind him. It's always bad luck, or huge fov or whatever..
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:11 am

I know there's no reasoning with you RH, but this is more of Xan's tripe - I do remember & you weren't there.

I'll say this once, I spoke of unic_sorin's inclusion of the 'wallhack' config in his beermod, no accusations came from me.

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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:33 am

This is ridiculous.. Did you EVER play with SOUND?! You don't need a wallhack when doing so, sound is much better if you turn it loud enough. This is nothing but defamation. I will just overlook Faith's posts here, since I know her reasons for talking accusing and offensive nonsense. You are just once again spinning out a story that just exists in your imagination.
It's actually the same again and again. I will not mention any other examples, you might know what I mean, but seriously just stop talking nonsense. This is just another thread that will probably be deleted or at least be restricted because of that kind of thing.

Remain silent.
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:39 am

Those videos have sound. Plug in your headphones. Listen.

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This is just another thread that will probably be deleted or at least be restricted because of that kind of thing.
You are the one that is offtopic here. Kid.
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:45 am

I'm just replying to what you say.
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:48 am

hehe agry u are a kid 2 Very Happy cool we're in 2 but our situations are different Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:55 am

Sure, I am a kid, I'm 15 but what's the point?
Really, this discussion is unnecessary, I guess I'll just not reply anymore to this from now on.
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:56 am

All time I was just looking at your discussion...
I must say that I'm happy that it's not about me Razz Razz Razz

In my oppiniion both sides aren't right in this situation but I just have 1 question to Radiohe4d.
You said that it's impossible to prove that someone cheats for 100%, right?
So then if it's impossible maybe it's better to leave it as it is? I mean that this duscussions(in forums and game), this spying for someone and so on?..

You start this discussion( no matter who did it) and these arguments will be every time while cheating won't be proved, but if it's impossible it just will never end... pale

You all also can start to check each other, whole community can make faked names and go spying to "evil" servers...
What's for?
Even if you will prove it. What will change? Nothing... No

Childish? it's not childish at all. Fair play is important. But childish is how you all make it "fair".
If it has sense for you, then I can be your next victim. I've heard that I'm using wallhack from members of 3 or 4 clans, so who wants to make me a star at forums? I'm ready.

P.S. I believe PK's guys. Sorry but I can't imagine that they are cheating. And I can say the same about eX.
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:17 am

Art wrote:
In my oppiniion both sides aren't right in this situation but I just have 1 question to Radiohe4d.
You said that it's impossible to prove that someone cheats for 100%, right?
So then if it's impossible maybe it's better to leave it as it is? I mean that this duscussions(in forums and game), this spying for someone and so on?..
Even if you cannot change things completely, you should at least try to make them better in my opinion..

Art wrote:
You start this discussion( no matter who did it) and these arguments will be every time while cheating won't be proved, but if it's impossible it just will never end... pale
You are absolutely right on that one.

Art wrote:
Even if you will prove it. What will change? Nothing... No
Oh I'm sure that there are enough players out there that have skill AND care about fair play. Those people will care. Regarding that upcoming 1on1 tournament, I think there is a good chance that a. cheaters wont use their cheats as they fear being caught b. cheaters are getting caught. But that only works if people are aware of the existence of those things.

Art wrote:
Childish? it's not childish at all. Fair play is important. But childish is how you all make it "fair".
If it has sense for you, then I can be your next victim. I've heard that I'm using wallhack from members of 3 or 4 clans, so who wants to make me a star at forums? I'm ready.

P.S. I believe PK's guys. Sorry but I can't imagine that they are cheating. And I can say the same about eX.
Yes, people believe in god too. And stuff. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:32 am

Fighting for justice is very cool, really. But not when catching one cheater worth a peaceful life in our community
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:38 am

can you please together come back one year back, and in turn to have fun and play like the old days together as friends? These times are full of fatigue and stress, I was very discouraged and tired, I miss very great games and fun together like the old days....can you pls stop stress? sry guys but WE ARE TOGETHER ARE ONLY ONE BIG MINSTA NEXUIZ COMMUNITY!!! THX
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:47 am

Art wrote:
All time I was just looking at your discussion...
I must say that I'm happy that it's not about me Razz Razz Razz

In my oppiniion both sides aren't right in this situation but I just have 1 question to Radiohe4d.
You said that it's impossible to prove that someone cheats for 100%, right?
So then if it's impossible maybe it's better to leave it as it is? I mean that this duscussions(in forums and game), this spying for someone and so on?..

You start this discussion( no matter who did it) and these arguments will be every time while cheating won't be proved, but if it's impossible it just will never end... pale

You all also can start to check each other, whole community can make faked names and go spying to "evil" servers...
What's for?
Even if you will prove it. What will change? Nothing... No

Childish? it's not childish at all. Fair play is important. But childish is how you all make it "fair".
If it has sense for you, then I can be your next victim. I've heard that I'm using wallhack from members of 3 or 4 clans, so who wants to make me a star at forums? I'm ready.

P.S. I believe PK's guys. Sorry but I can't imagine that they are cheating. And I can say the same about eX.

PK and the Prophets we are old clans and the time since I know nobody member use cheats so please aware of the concept of important things
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:48 am

Radiohe4d wrote:
Art wrote:
In my oppiniion both sides aren't right in this situation but I just have 1 question to Radiohe4d.
You said that it's impossible to prove that someone cheats for 100%, right?
So then if it's impossible maybe it's better to leave it as it is? I mean that this duscussions(in forums and game), this spying for someone and so on?..
Even if you cannot change things completely, you should at least try to make them better in my opinion..

Art wrote:
You start this discussion( no matter who did it) and these arguments will be every time while cheating won't be proved, but if it's impossible it just will never end... pale
You are absolutely right on that one.

Art wrote:
Even if you will prove it. What will change? Nothing... No
Oh I'm sure that there are enough players out there that have skill AND care about fair play. Those people will care. Regarding that upcoming 1on1 tournament, I think there is a good chance that a. cheaters wont use their cheats as they fear being caught b. cheaters are getting caught. But that only works if people are aware of the existence of those things.

Art wrote:
Childish? it's not childish at all. Fair play is important. But childish is how you all make it "fair".
If it has sense for you, then I can be your next victim. I've heard that I'm using wallhack from members of 3 or 4 clans, so who wants to make me a star at forums? I'm ready.

P.S. I believe PK's guys. Sorry but I can't imagine that they are cheating. And I can say the same about eX.
Yes, people believe in god too. And stuff. Wink


if you wanna be fair member and stay friendly with community,stop kick players without reason radio
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:50 am

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hehe agry u are a kid 2 Very Happy cool we're in 2 but our situations are different Smile

bro,pls this is about us,friendship clans as old times....
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:07 am

ohh trust me bro Smile this topic was useful for me at least now i know how some people are

we were never a community and will never be since there are clans that are against us or we against them

we just have fun playing AT LEAST from my experience i have fun playing nex and that with every player even with those who offend me

cheating would be terrible like i said be4 killing the game and if some1 does it well he should be cursed Wink

since there isn't a prove for the cheating and stuff we should stop it here or things could get worst

i hope nothing else will be added and RESPECT

cya around folks
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:16 am

i know this people long time as you bro , whenever we talked about the other in a friendly gesture and sincerity but these problems have recently reinforces rooted elsewhere, and this is only where it opens place here about this....we are long time together as one big minsta community pain,pls remember this
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:51 am

.... Neutral i know Xone and my Frog ...
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:52 am

lol anji, this guys has the same opinion like some people in exile clan,ie he thinks that he understands everything but he said some shit...
The people who put war in minsta community are always the same, they want attention and stuff. That's why there are aggressivity and there are stupid videos who proves nothing...
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:10 am

Ah, I would flame, but I'm too tired; reading all these posts is exhausting ;(.

But, after the pain of going through all of them, I give up, I must confess: I use cheats, Yes, I use cheats !! Sad. The way it works: when I play, I enable it by closing my eyes and then I start shooting randomly, then, when I hear the infamous "three frags left", I open the eyes (cheat disabled) and start playing normally, and of course I lose Sad - Noooo! it hurts me so much that I used this against you, guys Sad. Will you ever forgive me ? Please forgive meeee - I'm doomed Sad.................. Ah, I'm so relieved now that I spitted it out.... [I feel like am attending a "Nexuiz Cheating Anonymous" meeting Smile]. And, NO, I won't make this cheat public [the code :-p] - WE NEED to kick all the nexuiz cheaters, let's start a witch hunt, let's kick them all, we know they are hiding among us; it could be your friend, it could be your bro, be aware, YOU may live next to a nexuiz cheater; if you see something wrong, tell us, we'll take care of it !!!!!!

PS0. I'm with Xone and Spohst here. For many reasons - technical or non-technical. We already should be aware of many of these reasons, if not, no comment, I'll probably get back to my tic-tac-toe game - hope I did not lose my skills ;( ...

PS1. To the ones who put too much energy in this fight/flame/war/joke/sickness/whatever/name it, be careful, you seem to be having a second life here and you may not want that Wink... BTW, what are you trying to do ? [oh, no, no answer needed, pls]
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:32 am

Quote :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-cVxLbS_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC40OErdg8M

Oops. Yes, sixth sense I know.

I guess I need to be honoured now that you call me cheater,eh? Wink

Well, my 2 cents:

vid1) The place where the enemy stands is a popular place to wait for your opponent. You (pardon, Feo) simply filmed my way to solve that problem.
vid2) You CAN see him.
I normally use 'r_showsurfaces 3' on final_rage as it's pretty detailed map.
Players are completely green then. When you use a 24'' monitor with a rather high fov, you will see a little green flickering. The human eye reacts extremely sensitive when something moves and it's not in your focus. From there one I knew where he was. The rest was simple waiting.
Just strange that you enabled the wallhack exactly in the moment you can see him. Suspect
I guess that was your six sense then.




But something different. You show how I am wallhacking. With a blended-in Wallhack. That rises the question from where you got it?
I could insult YOU to use it. You even already prooved that you have a working wallhack.
But I don't. But you insult me, just wondering why:
The only 'insult' I said in my first post that you are contra-productive (addressed to Feo now). That was meant to be irony, but be honest you both, it's true.
Do you really wonder why Feo has a bad reputation? Do you REALLY think I am the only one she insulted being a cheater? The only Flamewar she started? Pat? Zaght? Wicked? Names over names.

You also said something else what was pretty interesting:
Radiohead wrote:

I'm aware of the fact that you never can
prove someone is wallhacking for 100% without standing behind him. It's
always bad luck, or huge fov or whatever..
You already said it.Congratulations!
If you wait long enough you have something that looks like something else.


To make it official: I don't use any cheats.

P.S: Feo,Faith and Radiohead are not anymore welcome to the PK servers from my side.
We want to have fun while playing together. Not fun while playing against each other.
Perhaps you should pay attention to the big red words you show on the exile forum.

And from now I will follow Agrypnos' advice. I remain silent.

@all: Calm down.That's nothing comapared to that olde flamewar between (e.g.) Feo and zaght. The topic was somehow similiar.
And now: Let's enjoy our Reallife - as long as you have one.

My last post in this useless thread.


@c.b.: n1 What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Xone = Cheater   Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:07 am

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You (pardon, Feo) simply filmed my way to solve that problem.
Like I said earlier, Feo had nothing to do with that. Just accept it. So if you want to attack someone for that, you will have to attack me, not some girl. Sorry.


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But something different. You show how I am wallhacking. With a blended-in Wallhack. That rises the question from where you got it?
I could insult YOU to use it. You even already prooved that you have a working wallhack.

Here you go, from a rather official source: http://fisume.nexuizninjaz.com/wallhack/wallhack.txt


Quote :
You also said something else what was pretty interesting:
Radiohead wrote:

I'm aware of the fact that you never can
prove someone is wallhacking for 100% without standing behind him. It's
always bad luck, or huge fov or whatever..

You already said it.Congratulations!
If you wait long enough you have something that looks like something else.

On your servers you will and can do whatever you want. But I really hope that during that tournament, all demos get checked. Just to be sure, you know. Should be in the interest of everyone who plays fair here.

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And from now I will follow Agrypnos' advice. I remain silent.
Yes and as everyone knows - as long as we ignore bad things, they wont happen! And btw, flaming a 16yr old girl makes you look like a dick. Maybe your idiot friends will laugh about that but in my opinion thats pretty poor.

Well, everything is said now from my side at least..
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