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PostSubject: Yet another droid.   Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:36 am

heyho! Very Happy

(Note: thers also a thread in the PK-forum - I'll show it here also coz of lost's wish)
I want to create a new playermodel for Nexuiz, and to post here the progress of the model.....

What I do, and how long does it take?
- I create a highdetailed model....
- ..and build a version with lower poly-count out of this...
- ...and painting the textures. ( Sleep !)
- Then I have to animate it..
- and jamming it in our holy father: the darkplaces-engine.
Thats much work,so it will take some months...

Heres the actual stand:
(And yes, I t becomes somrthing like a droid;) )

Just to let you know: Thats the Highpoly - means: not the one you see then ingame - its too detailed.
Critic is very welcome - you dont have to say "nice" all the time Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:49 am

Thanks for posting here, it adds a bit of creative spice. Wink

I think it's coming along nicely. Smile

The only criticism I can think of is the missing pelvis... I guess you're aware of that. Wink

If you're aiming for a droid clone, maybe look at the scale of the limbs.

Keep up the great work! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:17 am

*HOORRRAY!*
Thats the first time that somebody says something different than "nice" Very Happy Thx!
And yes the Pelvis is missing. But hes already modeled and was just in vacation when I made this render Razz
Proportions also doesnt match yet....Thats the difficult part...
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:32 am

nice Wink

But....if u want some critism, then i have to say that the feets doesn't look good.
I don't really know why and maybe its just because of the actual viewing point, but i think they are to small(or even the form?) and he can't stand on them.

It looks like Star Wars so the look it nearly final anyway and i think that's why everyone says nice Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:23 pm

i hate it Twisted Evil

anyway for what will u use that???
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:45 pm

Quote :
i hate it
Also a possibility to say something different Smile
Quote :

anyway for what will u use that???
Thats gonna be a new playermodel in Nexuiz.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:24 pm

See the advantage of posting here? You don't get much of a sugar coating tho. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:05 am

heyho!

I think the HighPoly is finished... (Please say everything you dont like t'ill now! )
Still ToDo (in chronological order):

  • Building the Low-Poly - means taking the current HighPoly as somekind of a 3D-sketch and reducing more and more details till the polycount goes down to 3000 or something. (its at 316933 at the moment Razz ) takes hopefully only some days...
  • Baking Textures - We take again the HifgPoly and "baking" now the Normalmaps -> The Details are still there, but are "saved" now in a texture and are usable for the LowPoly.
  • Painting: - I just take GIMP and try to get some nice textures..(hopefully) - takes looooong.
  • Animating - Oh... Im bad in animations Smile - takes even looooooonger.
  • Jamming it into the engine - Importing it in Nexuiz and doing a package for the server. - Im a idiot, so it takes probaly also looong xD
  • THE END Wink - takes !loooong

Doesnt matter if you didnt understood that Very Happy

Heres the update of today:
(ahmm I just noticed that one finger is somewhere else as its supposed to be..ignore it Very Happy)

Refernce:

Anybody wants to play with it in 3D?

cu

P.S: Forget the feets they are really looking like that.. :/
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:00 am

Looking very good m8. Wink

Scale is better, slightly longer thighs & chunkier fingers would fine tune it tho. Other than that, just centring the knee & ankle joints should do the trick. Wink

Even after the above nitpicking, I didn't notice the thumb - shows what I know. Rolling Eyes

A play in 3D? Sure! I have no experience, but I wouldn't mind seeing what this Blender thing does. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:30 am

I think the middlepiece which combines the upper part with the legs should be thicker.
(Der Steg der aus dem Torso kommt)
And the Pelvis where the legs start maybe a bit wider.
That would give a more solid look like the one on the pictures...

And also at the legs, the thighs are shorter than the the lower. That's uncommon and I think normally they are at least equal

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:55 pm

yeah, lower it's knees a bit. oh and it is not nice at all Laughing Razz
wonder how it's gonna be animated Smile dunnow hy but reminds me a bit model "junga" from q3a, was moving like a spider with 4 limbs Smile well there were models much more droid-looking, but I thought about this one.
keep up the good work m8 Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:56 am

For the play in 3D: (I love this rhyme Wink )

  • Download blender and install it.
  • Download my file and save it.
  • Start Blender -> You'll get the Standard Startscreen: a cube.
  • Press F1 -> A OpenFile Window apperars -> navigate to the place where you saved my .blend and select it with RMB. -> Click the OpenFile in the right upper corner.
  • You'll see the droid -> Press SHIFT + F to fly around a bit..Find a good perspective and press F12 and after some minutes (er...warning: I have a quadcore and a SSE3 optimized blenderbuild - it will render perhaps more then the 1minute here Razz ) you'll get a fine image like I post them here. Feel free to play around a bit.


And thx for the critic - I changed it.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:17 am

Cheers m8, can't wait to have a play. Don't think my work computer will cut it, will wait to get back to my rig. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:42 am

I think I have to wait till I get my 8600 gt back. it should happen soon Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:41 am

Took me long to get a proper picture...and still it dont have a head and i miss some part of the legs What a Face
With settings on 25% it still renders around 3 minutes on a Core Duo E6600(2,4Ghz)
Well...it looks nice already, specialy from the side i like it


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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:58 am

hahaha,
I had to laugh when I saw this pic... Razz
You can solve the "I dont see the head"-problem very easy : You see in your camera two pointed lines:

The second line ("2"!) says you what you'll see in the render then Smile
Means the head and the legs just were not in the Camera view Smile

EDIT: Very cool picture! bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:07 am

Brecht van Bommel wrote:
hahaha,
I had to laugh when I saw this pic... Razz

That was exactly my intention...drunken drunken




With Head and legs it looks even better Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:12 am

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That was exactly my intention.
Thank you! Very Happy
By the way: Theres no star on the ground - my fault, I forgot to pack it.. Sorry! Mad
And the pic looks even cooler now!
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:52 am

Blender has a steep learning curve, in an hour all I managed to do is mess up your model. Razz

It took 1min, 26sec to render - pretty impressive how it kicked all cores up to 100% - not many app's do that.

Anyhoo, I made a quick wallpaper with the render. Wink


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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:00 am

Maybe Brecht and Modi could post some of their blender-made-works here?
I realy like the look of the program

I will try it out tomorrow a bit, maybe i start with a chair Razz

And Lost: It looks niceinfront of your nex-beam Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:07 am

Thx, it's just a quick one tho. Wink

Just edited actually - noticed I hadn't cut it out too well. Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:47 pm

nice wallpaper T:)
btw
so Lady model is next in queue? Cool What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:56 am

oh, works of Modi? Im sorry but the started with blender some days agao...so except of chairs nothing interseting Smile
Works of me? Please : http://blendpolis.de/f/album_personal.php?user_id=3663 ..only some of them.
theres a thread in the pk-forum: http://playerkiller.toxicfarm.com/pics-links-etc-f4/my-blender-pics-t267.htm
Here is my desktop:

Very Happy

And no Banshee, first I have to model the pinp-model and then follows the doomy lady Wink
@ Growl: http://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_Dokumentation - wirklich empfehlenswert

@all: Im sorry, no pics till friday - school started and Im writing 2 tests in the next days. :/

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:05 am

The Picture is good, but it's a nuke, isnt it?
Can't say nukes are nices Very Happy

I bookmarked your wiki-site
I take a look at it soon

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another droid.   Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:57 am

And another update:
The (unoptimized) Lowpoly in a early version:
Nearly exact 5000 tris... needs some improvement.

Critics & Comments please. Wink
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